Man, you’re still missing the point and you wonder why I had to resort to hyperbole. Nvm, since you don’t actually seem interested with disproving his point effectively and still want to compare prices despite it being irrelevant to the actual point, there’s not much use with continuing this discussion. You’ve provided information that proved half his point about US internet is incorrect, and that’s good enough for me.

If your neighbour can also get symmetrical internet with a residential contract, then that would be the better example to prove his point wrong.

A business contract is not a good comparison because they usually are symmetrical for a premium price regardless of the quality of the residential internet in your area.

Even in my country you can get symmetrical internet with a business contract, yet I’ll never claim my country’s internet is comparable to one that do provide it for a normal residential connection, because we don’t have that option here.

And he did say his internet was a normal domestic internet, btw.

You’re not making a good look for your stance when you over hyperbolize the situation.

I needed to hyperbolize the situation because you can’t seem to grasp why a business line wasn’t a good comparison, as you can see from how it works in my country. All you needed to do was provide the point that the symmetrical internet is not exclusive to a business contract and it would have made your argument completely valid.

Tell them to copy and paste that text from their phone to their TV and tell me how it goes. First, you gotta explain what apps are available on whatever TV they’re using, though.

You also conveniently forget to mention the amount of work you need to setup a domain name that points to your Jellyfin server vs just telling them to sign up for a Plex account and tell you the email address they used.

Btw, the average person have no trouble signing up for an online account. How do you think people create an account for their social media, email address, and online shopping? Just google Plex and sign up. It’s a familiar process for them, unlike dealing with URLs or VPN apps.

He provided details about his non-business internet being symmetrical and YOU compared it to your business contract line, that’s literally how it started.

The cost is to prove that Americans do not have easy access to the same level of internet his country has, which is his main point. You needed to purchase a business line to have it symmetrical, which is not accessible to the everyone.

Just because you can pay 100 times the cost of healthcare in European countries to get high quality heathcare in America, it doesn’t mean the average American can afford to go to the hospital or that your healthcare system is just as good. The same thing applies to your internet.

Yeah, but the proportion of people who used computers during that time is much smaller than the generations after, meaning they only represent a very small minority of non-technical computer users.

Not to mention that my country lagged behind in terms of computer adoption during the 90’s and 00’s compared to developed nations, so it is even less likely for you to find that category of people around me.

They can if forced to, but they never have to do that normally. What you’re telling people to do is make normal people do things they don’t normally do when browsing the web and saying its as easy as making them sign up for a Plex account. Most people have done similar things as the latter, but they only have to type a full URL once or twice in their lifetime.

That is way beyond the comfort zone of most people I know. The general use case of web browser for normal people is googling the website they want and clicking the link while being blissfully unaware of what a URL is or does.

This does not mean they are mentally deficient, it just means they spend their mental processing and memory on other things they deem actually important.

Then, you are completely out of touch with how most people use computers.

No, he provided details for his internet first. You’re the one who came in comparing your business contract internet with his non-business one. Did you just conveniently forget that?

Its impossible to know if your joke might be offensive to others when you live different lifestyles.

It’s like telling people not to serve food that might be prohibited by the religion of one of their dinner guests when they have never interacted with the religion before.

What OP does here is trying to educate himself, which is the right move, in my opinion.

It just further proves that propaganda works and the human brain is way too good at filtering out readily available information to support its own beliefs.

So you don’t have an actual argument and can only say it’s wrong?

It’s not advisable to expose Jellyfin to the internet. Telling people they don’t need VPN means you are encouraging them to expose it to the internet.

You don’t technically need it on Plex. They do have a relay feature.

So you’re telling people to expose Jellyfin to the internet?

Again, sure, whatever your mind wants to make up and believe to maintain your superiority complex. It’s just really funny seeing how ass-backwards you are since your efforts seem more damaging to your movement than anything else. It’s almost like you don’t actually care about reducing beef consumption, only that you get to claim the moral high ground. Well, whatever. It’s not worth arguing with your ego, I got better things to do.

In what way? He was clearly receptive to the link given by the other guy. The fact that you only see what you want to see is the real problem here.

Sure, whatever you want to believe. You don’t seem to care that you’re sabotaging your own movement, anyway, so what so I care what you think.

I’m pretty sure more animals got killed by you turning off people against the movement than I ever cause by eating beef my whole life. I barely eat beef in the first place, and most of what I eat comes from small scale local farmers. So congrats, I guess, for killing more cows than me.

You could certainly lead by example by not acting like an insufferable asshole and giving the movement a bad look.

So could the poster, but you certainly are not accusing him of trying to “gotcha” other people.