• alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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    The only thing that would have kept Trump out of the whitehouse was for the democrats to stop facilitating genocide.

    You blue MAGA are the ones who helped them maintain the delusion they could have both their genocide and win. You helped them maintain the delusion they could have won with Biden until 5 months before the election.

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      The sad truth is that turning on Israel would have done more damage to the democrats electorally than it would’ve helped. Not saying it’s good, just sayings it’s true, and waving Gaza around as “the reason” Harris lost is kind of disingenuous and misses the bigger picture

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        Right up front, I voted for the ‘lesser evil’ in a swing state, so stow those comments about me enabling fascism.

        The sad truth is that turning on Israel would have done more damage to the democrats electorally than it would’ve helped

        I mean, you can keep saying that. But it’s not even true among Jewish voters, let alone the larger electorate.

        I’m really starting to suspect these kind of comments are morality laundering after spending months backing an immoral stance held by a feckless executive who refused to see past his moral blind spot.

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        Yes, the bigger picture is that as soon as Harris got the nomination, she ran back to the cold, dead embrace of the Biden campaign, and supported every single policy that made Biden so unpopular. No muslim spoke at the DNC, but they had cops, CPB, and republicans speaking for the party.

        Her words when asked what the difference between a Biden and Harris admin would be was “Well I would appoint a republican to my cabinet”.

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          Yes, the bigger picture is that Harris was a bad candidate for a litany of reasons.

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            Harris could have been a great candidate. The flaw was that she promised more of the same. She would have trounced Trump if she became the candidate we all hoped she would be in the weeks after she announced and appointed Tim Walz VP.

            This isn’t a messaging issue. Biden’s greatest flaw wasn’t that he was old, it was that he didn’t fight for the things people elected him to fight for, and instead compromised with republicans, ended covid protections, built more of Turmps wall, deported more immigrants, sent more weapons to Israel, and did fuckall to protect women’s rights.

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        The sad truth is that turning on Israel would have done more damage to the democrats electorally than it would’ve helped.

        “Our country just wants genocide too much” is quite the take.

        I love this logic because it doesn’t even matter how bad the position is - we could be arguing against sending immigrants to gas chambers and you could still say “sorry, they can’t run against that because they’d lose more votes than they’d gain”. Nevermind the fact that they helped to create the political reality that they are now claiming to be helpless against. They spent the last 80 years making Israel into the centerpiece of middle eastern foreign policy and now they can’t speak out against an ongoing genocide because they might lose their control and influence in the region.

        Even better - some of the same people saying ‘gaza isn’t the reason we lost’ are also saying ‘we lost because we’re too woke’ - it shows just how much contempt the democrats have for their base that they dismiss the problem being with their genocidal foreign policy and instead blame their loss on being too friendly toward minorities.

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      LMAO your moral stand is going to literally get people murdered.

      How does that feel? I think it’d feel bad.

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        You don’t even need to take the moral stand to tell democrats to do the moral thing when the moral thing is also the only shot they had at winning.

        Your stance is morally repugnant, but more importantly, ineffective. We told the democrats they would lose if they did genocide. You told the democrats they could win while doing genocide. Look at what happened.

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      bLuE mAgA!

      It’s good to see you leaning into what your entitlement has won for you. Glad you can own it so transparently.

      People are going to suffer but at least it’s not the democrats brand of genocide, right?

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        God imagine if there was a Blue MAGA, a cult that was just as die-hard about protecting transpeople, labor rights, and all that as Red MAGA was with destroying them.

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        You learned nothing in 2016, you learned nothing in 2020, and you learned nothing in 2024. Can’t wait to see you insisting that the democrats can win while running on compromise, building the wall, deporting every immigrant, getting tough on crime, banning trans people from public life, and continuing whatever war Trump starts in 2028.