I mean they’re talking to you nicely and you won’t change your mind. So why does it fucking matter how nicely they engage these hateful imbeciles? It’s a waste of time.
I mean they’re talking to you nicely and you won’t change your mind.
Because I haven’t heard logic, they have never tricked me into a corner where I would have to admit to myself “I supported evil”, “I was tricked” or “am I a hypocrite”. But if you are good enough at arguing, you could change my mind.
Unfortunately, this isn’t how it usually goes, and few people are good enough at that to convince somebody. Most arguments end with neither side convincing the other of anything important. Humans are emotional creatures, and feelings often are justified into “facts” even long after they’ve been outright proven false.
People have tried this with Republicans for at least the past 20 years, and look at where we are now. All it did was allow the racists to couch their open bigotry behind the lie of “it’s just a joke,” and respond to any real pushback against their hate with “so much for the tolerant left.”
They’re a cult, and there’s one depressing fact about cults: the deeper in someone is, the harder it is to pull them out - and after a certain point, it’s almost impossible. There’s a sunk cost fallacy to their beliefs that becomes harder and harder to shake because to admit that they’re wrong would be to admit that their actions aren’t justified and their core beliefs are bad.
Exactly what I was thinking. The most effective way to fight bigotry is through lived experience, and that’s one of the reasons that it’s such a huge problem in the US outside of the cities. Most Americans will never leave their state and will die within 25 miles of where they were born.
I mean they’re talking to you nicely and you won’t change your mind. So why does it fucking matter how nicely they engage these hateful imbeciles? It’s a waste of time.
Because I haven’t heard logic, they have never tricked me into a corner where I would have to admit to myself “I supported evil”, “I was tricked” or “am I a hypocrite”. But if you are good enough at arguing, you could change my mind.
Unfortunately, this isn’t how it usually goes, and few people are good enough at that to convince somebody. Most arguments end with neither side convincing the other of anything important. Humans are emotional creatures, and feelings often are justified into “facts” even long after they’ve been outright proven false.
People have tried this with Republicans for at least the past 20 years, and look at where we are now. All it did was allow the racists to couch their open bigotry behind the lie of “it’s just a joke,” and respond to any real pushback against their hate with “so much for the tolerant left.”
They’re a cult, and there’s one depressing fact about cults: the deeper in someone is, the harder it is to pull them out - and after a certain point, it’s almost impossible. There’s a sunk cost fallacy to their beliefs that becomes harder and harder to shake because to admit that they’re wrong would be to admit that their actions aren’t justified and their core beliefs are bad.
That certainly is a big problem, as you can see from the other comments.
Exactly what I was thinking. The most effective way to fight bigotry is through lived experience, and that’s one of the reasons that it’s such a huge problem in the US outside of the cities. Most Americans will never leave their state and will die within 25 miles of where they were born.