• duhbasser@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    I work in cyber security and have gotten to work with some very talented female engineers. It’s always shocking to me the amount of disrespect some third party will display towards them. Like talking down or whatever.

    What’s also entertaining is watching my coworkers absolutely destroy these ass hats.

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      I’m studying cybersecurity and there are barely any women, but our directors are always encouraging them to participate and speak more. I’m friends with some of them and they hardly encounter anyone hostile. There are some men that speak behind their backs, but I’m glad a lot of people defend them and are open about their stance against sexism and misogyny. It’d always funny when anyone says something sexist and everyone around responds making fun of them or just ignoring them and leaving them alone on their comments.

      Of course, it’s not perfect, but I’m glad that it’s getting better. Also, women were the whole top 3 or 5 of all students in our faculty lol

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        2 days ago

        Yea I’ve never understood the negative reaction to working with women in cyber security but those people are losers anyway.

        On another note, how are you liking cyber security? Any questions? Concerns? Areas you’re interested in?

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          And they certainly look like losers lol

          Hmm, I’m liking it very much. I’ve been self-hosting as part of my learning journey so I can understand better the things I learn and apply them. Right now I’m concerned with people replacing security roles with AI, but it’s México and we’re so behind in cybersecurity I think I can worry later. I want to go into GRC or auditing, any tips?

          I like a lot of different areas, I’m thinking about following one of my teachers ideas and also offer freelance monitoring solutions. I try to learn a bit of everything so I can stay ready :)

          BTW, if you know any software that’s very used so I can start checking out, I’d be glad to hear about it. I know the FOSS alternatives are not that common and that’s what I have to use rn

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            9 minutes ago

            Self hosting is the way to go. I’d suggest looking into open source projects for something you might be passionate about. Like, if you like gardening you could set up a time to turn gardening lights on, water systems, ect…those types of projects, when using open source apps, REALLY speed up you’re understanding of how systems communicate with each other.

            I work for a company that has offices in Spain (estoy aprendiendo español para mi trabajo) and Spain has a lot of jobs in tech, if you wanted to explore other areas.

            GRC tools, I’ve only used ZenGRC but that was for a short time and I don’t focus on that, so I’m not the best resource for that. I do work with Data Governance tools that will usually work closely with GRC type tools, if that’ll help.

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          2 days ago

          Yea I’ve never understood the negative reaction to working with women in cyber security

          The ND boys who got bullied by girls for being little creepy weirdos got into tech as a replacement for a sex life, grew up creepy about it, can’t be normal when the thing that they replaced in their lives is suddenly back and fucking with said replacement

          Source: I was one of the ND boys getting bullied for being a creepy little weirdo and got into tech, but I learned how not to be such a creepy little weirdo from the bullying and managed to make a friend and learn and grow. Others… Don’t. Having known many of them closely, only some of them can be forgiven for this lack of decency

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            2 days ago

            Honestly, good on you dude. Being able to identify a toxic behavior and then make changes to better yourself is something a lot of people don’t do.

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          2 days ago

          As an older woman studying cybersecurity as well, it is very good to hear this from y’all.

          Not who you asked but, I’m still early on and have heard I should go ahead and start some certifications on my own. Suggestions on the first few possibly from someone in the field?

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            I found certifications to be a waste of time and money, honestly. I literally had HR at multiple places tell me it was entirely irrelevant to their decision to even interview me when it was a job requirement to have

            Im rather convinced it was once useful as I knew someone who did it, but at some point it swapped to the same fucking scam colleges are in the US: pay to be sub-entry-level in their eyes

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            Certificates when you first start are good for getting your foot in the door but the best way to learn in a real world experience. To answer your question, 99.88% of people would said Security+, but that cert is nothing compared to actually dealing with actual real world BS. Certain types of attacks don’t follow a pattern and being able to adapt to that isn’t going to be taught in Security+