I mean… I kinda get it, but nowadays it’s starting to get absurd.

(EDIT: This was supposed to be a “blow air out my nose and get on with my life” meme…)

  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    Inside me are two wolves

    One thinks Chinese tech is cool and innovative

    The other hates fascist dictatorships

    *both of the wolves are gay

    • satxdude@lemm.ee
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      25 days ago

      You may or may not think China is “authoritarian” but how on earth are they fascist?

      • Eheran@lemmy.world
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        25 days ago

        Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

        Far right? Hm, maybe not. Otherwise: Check, check, quasi-check, check, check, check, …

        • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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          25 days ago

          China has become a psudo Capitalist country in its quest for world domination.

          Capitalism goes hand in hand with right wing extremism

          I think China would have to do a lot more for the avg person before they could be considered socialist or communist again

          • Schmoo@slrpnk.net
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            25 days ago

            Socialism isn’t when the government does stuff for the people, it’s when the people take matters into their own hands and do stuff for the good of each other. Even if a state behaves in the most benevolent way possible, it is not socialist unless the workers have collective ownership of the means of production.

            • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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              25 days ago

              By that definition there are no socialist countries.

              When people talk about socialism in the real world it doesn’t mean owning the means of production

              • Schmoo@slrpnk.net
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                25 days ago

                Only because the very concepts of ownership and the collective-individual dichotomy are necessarily vague and subjective. China considers themselves socialist because they equivocate the people with the state. If the people are collectively represented by the state and the state owns (some of) the means of production, then at least transitively the people own (some of) the means of production.

                As an anarchist I don’t believe the state adequately represents the interests of the people, nor do I think it could even if it were radically democratic and egalitarian, though I would still certainly prefer that to the existing status quo. Somewhere a line must be drawn arbitrarily and I prefer to draw it on the other side of authoritarian state control.