• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        As a person with narcissistic parents:

        Grow up, get over it, learn how to validate yourself.

        Otherwise you will become a judgemental, attention seeking, never affirmation giving narcissist as well.

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          That is what happened to my sister. I, on the other hand am a ball of anxiety and depression that over compensates for what I went through in life by being overly accommodating to others. Some of learn to try to be better than those that raised us. Sometimes even that bites us in the ass.

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            Yep.

            It sucks, it isn’t fair at all, but … this is how generational trauma works, fucked up parents fuck up their kids, who fuck up their kids, etc etc.

            Fo what its worth, I believe in you =D

            I was raised by narcissists… I did great in school, got multiple college degrees, either excelled at or did decently at every other random hobby or sport or skill my parents demanded I learn… it was never enough for them to even acknowledge that I had done and learned all these things that they never did, that their parents mocked them for not being able to do… never had my opinion respected in the realms of any of these things they negged me into becoming either an expert in or gain advanced knowledge of, compared to them.

            Eventually I had a nervous breakdown, and went no contact. Lots of therapy. Lots of work on reframing my view of myself… realizing that their insane standards were in fact insane, massively hypocritical… learning how to love and respect myself, learning my way out of impostor syndrome, affirmations, meditation, focusing on simple things that make me happy, on recognizing my own achievements.

            And hell, sometimes it still comes back, and I have a bad day, feel like I am a failure… it isn’t easy.

            Kudos to you for recognizing it and even trying to become better, I think you’re doing great.

            But at the same time: When you recognize your own trauma responses kicking in… its ok to take a step back, give yourself some space, say a few ‘gooosfrabas’, breathe slowly and with intent, whatever works for you personally.

            For a while, for me, journalling helped a lot. No matter how minor or seemingly inconsequential, just once a week write down everything you managed to do.

            I found that a lot of even … seemingly basic things, like… making and sticking to a budget plan, paying bills on time, doing regular minor excercise, making a decently healthy meal plan… these things are actually shockingly uncommon amongst the broader population, and if you can clear those hurdles alone, you’re being more responsible than… basically the majority of the US adult population, haha, so you can and should give yourself credit for all the little things.

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      I get where you’re coming from but I still disagree with your position. An internet conversation is not the same as a meeting in real life. I like most people here because I don’t have to see them or have to be around them.

      I see it as a way to exchange information and opinions and as a way to escape from reality. Sometimes that goes off the rails and devolves into shitposting. Social media is a misnomer, it should be parasocial media.

      OTOH, I don’t have a twitter account (nor Insta, nor FB, nor TikTok, nor whatever-new-hip-platform), so maybe I’m just fucking antisocial and wished I weren’t.

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        OTOH, I don’t have a twitter account (nor Insta, nor FB, nor TikTok, nor whatever-new-hip-platform), so maybe I’m just fucking antisocial and wished I weren’t.

        not sure what’s going on here. you wished you were social so that you can stand to use social media?

        regardless, you’re on this platform, but it’s a lot more anonymous than any of the others. which i don’t use either because a) it’s 99% dreck; and b) anything “good” from there is reposted here anyway (along with the dreck, but whatever)

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      i think hating all other people is one of the things we can all agree on and empathize with.

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        “In the beginning the universe was created. This made a lot of people very unhappy and has widely been regarded as a bad move”

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      Hating peoples isn’t a reason to not share thoughts. That makes zero sense.

      You are assume this post is validation and that sort of shit where people project their own motivations onto others is why I feel the same way as the person in the meme and can be the motivation to post.

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    I actually did find that person. We’re pretty happy, grumbling and isolating from the world together. There’s people and then there’s people, and the latter are just awful.

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      First of all, genuinely happy for the both of you.

      Second of all, I don’t think it’s mentally healthy to have such a negative view on such a large portion of a society - personally, I’m very picky with friends and acquaintances, but the “I hate people”-attitude is rather something I associate with edgy teenagers and people who never grew out of that mindset.

      I mostly ignore that people who I don’t like exist and reduce my interactions with them to a minimum. Constantly hating just sounds exhausting, even if it’s so abstract.

      You are obviously free to do as you please; I’m just trying to provide another perspective that maybe brings more peace of mind.

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        It is exhausting and unhealthy in some ways. But look around… None of this shit is good for our mental health. I’ve done my time trying to make the best of being surrounded by truly disgusting people, and even help them despite everything. I’m done.

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        Hating people has a lot to do with how people interact with you.

        If anytime you go out someone threatns you or rubs their leg onto yours in public transport or whatever the fuck it will be this time, you just default to this mindset.

        Has something to do with self preservation.

        People who don’t have this constantly reinforced may be able to ignore it but it is not really a choice for all of us.

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        I think most people who “hate people” don’t actually hate all people, just people as a whole because they suck. Individual people can be great.

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        I hate people flat out.

        I ride ‘protected’ bike lanes and have people encroach into them anyways almost evey day. you hear the sound of stick against the bars of a railing then get hit in the back by a plastic tube. It was an suv or truck driving through the springy pylons and launching one at me.

        highway on ramp has a dedicated lane with a bike lane on the shoulder, but during rush hour everyone combines the bike lane with the on ramp lane and splits that into two unofficial car lanes.

        on foot big trucks always creep forward and block the entire walk phase and the light that indicates it.

        everyone stops in the middle of the intersection.

        when I’m driving people never understand zipper merge and trade paint every god damn day right in front or behind me and I dont have enough appendages to count the number of times I had to pull back ouut because someone decided last second they werent going to wait their turn after all.

        I hate people. And thats only car related. I could write more than tolkien about grocery stores or public spacesin general.

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        I don’t know man. I don’t actually “hate people” but then I go out downtown for one day and im sick of most humans. Once in a great while there are cool people, but it seems like it’s More just loud assholes that make the majority (America, so go figure). I’d rather talk to people on the internet that are a little smarter than most people i know irl. I actually enjoy being around some people but definitely not most.

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    I just gave up, it’s just easier for my mental health.

    To anyone that manages to work 9-5 and grind dating + hobbies. you’re a god and a legend. good for you.

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      I work 8:30-16:30 and the I have hours left with my wife. We spend that time walking in parks, puzzling, dancing, debating, watching art, watching movies or TV shows… We have so much time!

      I dont really have hobbies anymore because I prefer spending all my time with my wife, and I’m ok with that.

      It’s not that hard, really, I think. Just… Touch grass, go outside, stop doom scrolling, go find a hobby you love, find people and remember that everyone is flawed, so am I

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        Idk why this is getting downvoted. Sounded wholesome. I can see people disagreeing on the giving up hobbies party, but it’s also really easy to make judgments from an outside perspective. Me and my partner do have hobbies and we do appreciate our alone time, but I also aspire to do more puzzles and quality time things together.

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          Ah sure, have hobbies, do whatever you want, do whatever you like (as long as you don’t hurt or inconvenience others), just BE HAPPY. If happiness to you is being alone in a block hut on the mountain then you’re different from me, and that’s fine. Live and let live.

          My wife and I just happen to be so close that we want to just always be together and do everything together. We love our quality time together and I prefer my time with her over my hobby time so hobbies kinda went exit

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    People do say its more important to hate the same stuff than to like the same stuff in a relationship

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    Find a way to not hate people. Learn to recognize yourself in others. Or maybe you already do, and you need to learn to love yourself more. Have patience with yourself, and be more accepting of yours and others’ flaws.

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    Tangential for sure, but does anyone think the rise is misanthropy is linked to the documented increase in loneliness and alienation? It’s purely conjectural but it stands to reason that a feeling of alienation coupled with the distance preventing us from humanizing others might be corollary.

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      Nope, misanthrope here.

      Humans just fucking suck.

      They have to kill and eat and ‘fix’ everything that comes in their way.

      I didn’t like people just as much when I was forced to interact with them more than I am now, I’d just argue it’s easy to not rely on others nowadays.

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      From my personal anecdotal evidence, yeah, to an extent. I live in the States and a lot of our culture is pretty toxic. I had to find a few non-toxic, non-misanthropic groups to hang out with to reverse my misanthropy. Moving out of a conservative state helped a lot. Prior, I’d end up hanging out with other reluctantly socializing misanthropes who repeated prevalent toxic behaviors. It always resulted in a lot of unnecessary drama and hurt feelings.

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      Society atomized, third place dismantled. As an adult it’s difficult to meet new people and form deep relationships. There are services that ostensibly help you do that, whose real mission is the same old thing - profit maximizing. So they all enshittify and become toxic and manipulative.

      It’s difficult to not be misanthropic.

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    Yeah, my marriage ended with my ex torturing me for about three days give or take, and then calling the police to have me removed from the house I paid the bills on. The police then lied about what happened and there is no police report. I essentially don’t have rights as a human being - if a cis person rapes or physically assaults me, they will face no consequences. Kinda done with all forms of relationships.

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      Why torture yourself, then?

      There are good people out there, I’d like to think I’m one, or trying at least. So there is already at least one good person out there.

      Don’t let a few assholes ruin your life. there are boat loads of like-minded people out there for you, find them

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        I’m not going to find anyone in this red state. If my ex hadn’t also managed to max out my credit cards before kicking me out, I would be able to escape. I will never get out, I will never experience love or compassion again, I exist as a ball of misery that screams at people to try to prevent anyone from going through the torture I have experienced. I do not exist as a human being that is capable of receiving love, I am an object of anger that attempts to point myself like a gun at the people who hurt others to give my sad and miserable life meaning and purpose.

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          JFC

          Then move. Go away. Yes you can, it’s just a matter of what you’re willing to give up. Walk to a different state if you have to, because at this point even homelessness sounds better than what you’re experiencing.

          I feel for you, I really do, but your life -in part- is what you make it. Yeah, life throws lemons at you, but its up to you to respond to that and make it something. You have the choice of staying there, brooding and complaining, or you can do something.

          Join a protest group? Find like-minded people to hang out with? Maybe star driving somewhere, leave your state? Whatever you do, do something, don’t just accept the status quo you’re in now. Anything is better than just being miserable

          You have only one life, make it fucking matter. Make a differece for yourself, then once you’re okay, go in and make a difference for others. If not that, start first with others and that difference for yourself will come.

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            If I just drive straight north to try to beg for asylum, I will die of heat stroke in my car which does not have working AC. I will likely get pulled over, as my car is not registered and has a piece of plastic hanging off of its side. I don’t have the money to purchase gas.

            Walking would also probably lead to death from heat stroke. I would also likely be arrested due to my states hatred of the homeless/vagrancy laws. In jail, I would likely experience sexual assault as a trans person if not death.

            My plan last year was to work as much as I could to save money to leave. This did not work out, because I cannot afford to fix my car, to have health insurance.

            Where I am at I can afford the rent. My new job has a food pantry so I have options to not starve. I have a reputation which helps me get work opportunities.

            I do work on helping others. It is killing me and I am suffering due to retaliation but I am doing my damnedest to make sure that no children experience what happened to me. I tell anyone who will listen. I try to protect others.

            I give and give and give. There aren’t “communities” for people like me here. Even the most left leaning people here are at heart conservatives.

            I am just going to keep going until I can’t. When I take my final actions they will be precise.

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            Such a wonderful place!

            Seeking out mental health services six months ago got me physically assaulted and cost me a job, so I have PTSD from my ex husband torturing me, the child rape facility I was sent to as a teenager also torturing me, and the hospital I was sent to as an adult for daring to ask for help beating the shit out of me and calling me “fucking retarded!” I wish I could die, but instead of death I’ll just keep yelling at people so hopefully no one else will get to spend their nights slowly drinking themselves to death to make their brain not feel like it’s on fire.

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                My license just expired and I can’t afford to renew. Booze for now ❤️

                Cannabis won’t kill me, and I’m trying to die in a way that won’t get me imprisoned in a torture facility that will cost me thousands of dollars again. Slow death so I can yell at people.