• Sibshops@lemm.ee
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    The sad part is that the incel thinks the boyfriend will abuse her because that’s exactly what the incel would do in that situation.

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      He doesn’t just think that, he hopes for it.

      He hopes the girl has a miserable time in order to get back at her for shooting him down.

      Some people do not deserve companionship it seems

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      What, so now it’s “gay” to be a man who is sexually and romantically attracted exclusively to other men? Man, what’s up with this world.

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    He was being a bad person the moment he thought “I hope she gets abused by her boyfriend.” No need to do research on the guy after that point.

    That said, he’d only saying that because hes incredibly close to being depressed and in extreme self loathing in response to being rejected and trying to protect his his will to live via delusional projection and lashing out. “She’s the one with a problem not me. I’m great. She’s a piece of shit and deserves to suffer.”

    People who don’t delude themselves about how great they are unfortunately usually don’t respond to rejection with “I need to improve myself” or “I’m just not his/her type I’ll find someone.” but with “I should kill myself, its hopeless. I’ll be romantically alone forever and I can’t take it.” and the sheer mortal terror of potentially thinking that way causes the delusional insulation and projection.

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      The incel mindset is an elaborately constructed self-reinforcing worldview. Anything that might lead to self-improvement is cut off with hopelessness and self-loathing and thought-terminating cliches.

      And Schneier’s Law applies: “Any person can invent a security system so clever that she or he can’t think of how to break it.” Incels trap themselves in a fiendish bespoke prison they have constructed for their own torment. If they didn’t direct that torment outward at people who don’t deserve it, they would be pitiable.

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      “I need to improve myself” or “I’m just not his/her type I’ll find someone.”

      Hm… the only thing I can remember thinking after having been rejected was “phew, that didn’t work out, but glad I tried!” and moved on with my life. That… might be more to do with the general dissociation that I’m starting to realize has been a major theme in my life.

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        That’s definitely not normal. Most people feel some kind of negative emotion in response to any kind of rejection.

      • 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆@lemmy.world
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        Normal is someone you do not know well enough yet. It is a fictitious misconception. If you think about the concept objectively, you likely will not be able to name anyone you know really well that fits into the ideal group you have mentally abstracted as normal. The construct is part of tribalism and our human complex social hierarchy on a subconscious level; we are deciding who is and is not part of our personal tribe and their ranking within that hierarchy relative to our own. Everyone is abstracting on this level, but few are self aware in this space.

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          I honestly doubt this. Some people just live life by the book, never have an original thought, and are the square peg the square hole is looking for.

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          If you’re part of a .01% portion of a population that divides itself, you’ve likely got something different brewing in your brain than most. And there’s nothing wrong or right about that, but it is worth considering.

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            In one way or another you aee .01% of population, e.g. someone is from austria, electrician speaks german and english and italian, goes to church and part of the chorus, their partner is from italy, and they like mountain bikes. How many people like this in the world? How exactly using lemmy is less normal then using another less popular forum?

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              In that example, you’ve already described several thing that are unique or peculiar, albeit more common than using a website fueled by spite for the modern internet. Like I said, there’s nothing wrong or right about it, but it is worth considering.

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                So you wouldn’t consider someone from example a regular person? I think there is nothing exactly special about visiting another forum.

                • They’re an electrician, trilingual, and active. They’re definitely peculiar, and several guesses can be made about them and their history. None of it seems antagonistic against society or modern trends, but they’re a particular sort. Human heuristics are fun. Unless they’re used for bigotry. They’re often used for bigotry. But not here, currently, or especially by me.

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          Niche in this context literally means to be of interest to a small minority. Or to say it in other words, not normal.

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            I know what the word niche means, it doesn’t in any way or other words mean ‘not normal’.

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              I don’t know how to paint it more clearly for you. You are talking about interests that are out of the ordinary, not typical for the average population, obscure by definition, you know… niche. Having obscure interests is relatively common in the grand scheme of things but still not typical of the average person on the street. Which makes it not normal. I would go so far as to call it neurodivergent, since it’s most probably the cause of the said interests.

              I do prefer abnormality in my life, probably everyone that managed to get themselves on lemmy does, but we are not a representation of the general population, we are but a niche.

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                You can be unique, while being normal. Sorry, but visiting a forum doesn’t make you ‘not normal’ in any meaningful way.

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                  I guess we’re going into the definition of normality. To me this just means average, conventional, within certain limits. I would bet my ass most users of this simple forum are not average people, just based on the friction of the sign-up process alone.

                  And being unique while being normal is another oximoron from you. Either you are unique or you are average, you can’t be both.

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      Lol lemmy is just as terrible with women as 4chan is. Do you remember what it was like here during the man vs the bear question? So many users being the example of why women would prefer the bear

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        This has nothing to do with online platforms, and everything to do with terminally-online people who have never experienced socializing with the opposite gender.

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      These days, there is nothing abnormal anymore about a 4channer in highschool with a self-centered and entitled world view, low work ethics and a video gaming hobby. He is the normie. The guy who volunteers in a soup kitchen and takes active care of his own body is the one who dares to stand out and be different.

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        Have you met a youth lately?

        Every teenage and guy in their 20’s has two hobbies doom scrolling and gym. They can’t do anything else that doesn’t involve chatgpt

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          any male born after 2003 can’t date… all they know is 4chan , lift they weights, goon, be incel , eat hot tendie & lie

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      Everyone thinks of people who aren’t part of their group as “normies”. The Pope thinks of non-Catholics as normies. The Hebrew word for “normies” is “goyim”.